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Interview, Review

TLC: How We Made “Waterfalls”

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Rozonda ‘Chilli’ Thomas, singer

Anything that’s self-destructive, that’s chasing a waterfall. We wanted to make a song with a strong message – about unprotected sex, being promiscuous, and hanging out in the wrong crowd. The messages in Waterfalls hit home. I think that’s why it’s our biggest hit to date.

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When it first went to radio, nobody got it. They didn’t understand what we were talking about. It needed the video to bring the words to life. Even I don’t think I really fell in love with the song until I saw it. The moment I did, I knew it would be a hit.

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The timing was perfect. Organized Noize produced the track. They’d been working with Outkast and Goodie Mob and that funky, soulful sound that was their signature. CeeLo Green sang backing vocals – way before he was a big star. P Diddy did some interludes on the album, CrazySexyCool, too. But obviously, once our voices got on there, it became a TLC record.

The song made us much more relevant – not just a fun girl group. We were bringing awareness to subjects people were nervous talking about. It was groundbreaking for us: from then on, we were seen as the real deal.

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We definitely wanted to be role models. We felt like a lot of females didn’t have other females pulling for them – so every song we put out was a girl-power song. We told it from a woman’s point of view. Women liked that and men respected it.

AIDs is still out there. You still have bullying. You still have drugs. But you have to continue to bring awareness so that people can become more responsible and want to do the right things. You can never have too many records like Waterfalls.

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Tionne ‘T-Boz’ Watkins, singer and songwriter

I always loved what you’d call alternative music. Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, Duran Duran, Billy Idol. Bennie and the Jets by Elton John was my thing. I was born in Iowa and moved to Atlanta when I was a child.

Every time I tell people I’m from Iowa, they go: “There’s black people there?” I actually have a T-shirt that says: “Yes, there are black people in Iowa.”

I wanted Waterfalls to be our version of alternative music. When I heard an early version, I thought: “My god, this is perfect.” It was so left of what we’d done on our first album. It was amazeballs.

When we had finished recording it, we played it for Clive Davies, the big kahuna at the label. He was the boss of Arista, which distributed our label La Face. He didn’t like it. He said it was too deep. He didn’t think people would bump up the street to it.

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So we went to LA Reid, who ran LaFace. We bought a giant poster and wrote on it: “Please believe in us, we’ll make the best video ever.” He went against Clive and put up the money. We called in F Gary Gray to direct the video.

The first time he showed us the concept – which showed a kid getting killed selling drugs and a guy contracting HIV – we started crying.

AIDS was an epidemic at the time. Not long after the song came out, I was doing a book-signing and a man came up to me and held my hand. “I didn’t kill myself because of you,” he said. “I felt like nobody understood. But I felt like you guys understood how people can end up in my situation.”

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The day before recording, I’d been in a car with Lisa [“Left Eye” Lopes, who was killed in a car accident in 2002]. We saw a beautiful rainbow. That’s how her rap starts: “I seen a rainbow yesterday.” She’d been through a lot with the house burning down, she’d been locked up in the centre for drug and alcohol treatment.

That was serious, what she said was real. It was for herself and everyone else who had been down the wrong path, chased the wrong things. And she really did see that rainbow – and it made her feel good about life and remember how precious it is. That song still has meaning 25 years on.

I will never forget the day we filmed that video. I can’t swim. It was 6am and I’m on this little plastic thing in the middle of 80,000 tonnes of water, in the lake where they shot Jaws at Universal Studios. That’s why my feet are planted. I do not move. I was so worried about falling in.

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When we showed the video to Clive, he was like: “I knew it would be great!” And we were looking at him like: “What? Hush up!” We eventually fired people and got out of our deal. We were so underpaid. We made a lot of people wealthy. Being a black woman in the industry means you have so much going against you.

I’m not fearful about anything. If I believe in something and want to to talk about it, then that’s what we’re doing. I’m just happy that we were able to succeed in what we set out to do – make a difference.

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TLC headline the Mighty Hoopla festival in Brockwell Park, London, on 3 June.
Interview serves as part of The Guardian’s weekly ‘How We Made‘ series. 
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Anniversary, Interview

TLC on Cardi B and Why They Don’t Celebrate Left Eye’s Passing

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TLC sat down with Beats 1 on April 25, 2018, the 16th anniversary of the passing of the beloved Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes.

On Cardi B Paying Them Homage

T-Boz: “I know she wore my outfits at the Grammys and she wore Lisa’s hair. It was our whole Grammys-TLC feel when we were on stage, and she said Left Eye on one song, and paid homage to TLC on another song — our “Creep” song and then our name, too. She did it twice and she also paid us love on our page. So a lot of love — it was awesome.”

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On TLC’s Legacy

T-Boz: “It’s really an honor. You never think people are going to be — like, you always wish that, you want that. We would always say, ‘we want to be trendsetters. We want little girls to dress like us.’ But when you actually see them do it for Halloween, and have birthday parties, and generations — the grandma, the mom, and the daughter — all at the concerts. It’s really amazing. We’re blessed to be 25 years in, and people are still doing it.”

Chilli: “We are really blessed. And like she said, as an artist when you’re new coming out, your dream is to be able to have that type of effect — a positive one — on everybody, and to have that longevity. You don’t know if that’s going to be your story, so time tells that, and it has. It’s been 20 plus years, and even Bruno Mars, for that matter — the video that he had featuring Cardi B — it was almost like our “Ain’t Too Proud To Beg” video, and he had on a TLC t-shirt! It’s amazing and it’s a blessing for us to see that. It makes us feel really good and lets us know, OK we did it right. We’re still doing it, so yes, it is awesome.”

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On The Anniversary of Left Eye’s Passing

Chilli: “First of all, when you think of the word anniversary — I mean, I know that it’s a date that something took place. But when you think about that, you think of happy times.

When people celebrate the anniversary of a wedding, or a marriage, or a relationship of any kind, and it seems like to me it’s all something cheerful, and there’s nothing cheerful to me about her passing. I mean nothing. We don’t go out of our way to do anything like that. I mean, when her birthday comes around, yes, we talk about that, but not the death.”

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T-Boz: “But we celebrate it all year round. I mean really because we always incorporate her in everything we do. We always keep her memory alive. We showcase the great things, like why people loved her. So yeah, like when anybody else’s mom or sister dies, I don’t know a lot of people who celebrate cake or anything.”

 

Television

T-Boz aka Sheila to Make a 2018 Return to DAYS

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If you’re a true TLC fan you’ll have been following T-Boz playing the role of former convict Sheila in the hit daytime soap Days of our Lives in a reoccurring role since she began in 2016.

She returned in 2017 after her prison release to assist another prisoner, Bonnie Lockhart, in an elaborate plot to blackmail the Kiriakis for a big payout!

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During her time in the Kiriakis mansion, Sheila has posed as a maid, ordained a faux marriage and reunited with Eli Grant, her friend that got her arrested back in the day!

Things didn’t go to plan and she left town empty handed, which left fans wondering if it would be the last we’ve seen of Sheila Watkins!

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Thankfully, T-Boz has hinted that Sheila may be returning to the soap! She responded to a fan on Instagram (April 4) who asked when she would return to Days of our Lives and said “I’m shooting now“.

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Will you be tuning in to Days of our Lives to catch more of Sheila’s shenanigans?

Update: T-Boz will be next be seen again starting on September 13, according to the show’s taping schedule. 

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Television

Sheila Gets The Help She Needs To Leave Town in DAYS

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Sheila Watkins has had enough of the games with Bonnie Lockhart, so she confronts her in the park, stopping her from leaving Salem and demands that she gets the money she was promised from the start of the deal!

Bonnie’s plan to marry Victor fell through and threw everything into turmoil, as her secret finally became exposed that she was not the real Adrienne Kiriakis!

Hilariously, Sheila almost quotes the mega TLC hit “Waterfalls” in one of her lines, as she tells Bonnie “next time, please don’t go chasing.. well, just don’t bite off more than you can chew“.

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Sheila wants her money

Meanwhile, Eli Grant opens up to Gabi about his past and his true connection with Sheila. Find out if he does the right thing and helps Sheila or leaves her in the past!

T-Boz has revealed that this is her final appearance on the show, unfortunately, so this is goodbye to the role of Sheila, for now!

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TLC set to premiere new songs on overseas tour

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T-Boz has hinted that TLC may do some new songs from the long awaited 5th album on their Australian tour in November!

This hope was further solidified when she gave fans a glimpse of her discussing visuals for the revamped tour to feature new songs like No Introduction as part of the set!

Something for all fans to look forward to! Especially those of you lucky enough to be attending the new shows!

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Watch: Highlights of TLC Live at Arena Theatre!

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TLC put on another incredible concert last weekend, this time in Texas at the Arena Theatre in Houston!

Check out some of the highlights below!

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TLC fans Alair Scott and Chika Heat backstage with TLC in Houston

 

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